LRLs- What's really inside the black box

[waternhole]

The author of this site is somewhat skeptical about dowsing. But he has done us all a great favor by taking apart a lot of very expensive LRLs. The results are unbelievable. If you have one of these, please don't feel duped. They all work as physical dowsing instruments, and some of them work very well. Not because of the "electronics" inside, but because of the dowser using it. I'm an electrical engineer and the sites author is an electrical engineer as well. Believe me when I say that the "electronics" inside of these LRLs just don't make sense at all. Read for yourselves the author is very detailed in his descriptions of the "electronics".
He also has a lot of free projects you can do to make your own LRL and other items of practical use that are cheap and work. Not a bad web site from a person who is skeptical on dowsing!
Check it out. You'll be glad you did.

Geotech - Technology for Treasure Hunting

[aarthrj3811]

Hey waternhole....The question is have you looked inside these boxes? I have looked inside some of those that were tested by our freind. I have used some of them and they work fine. A simple walkie -talkie will find gold.Do all of them work? I don't think so. The statement say none of the LRL's work.Then you have plans so you can make one that works. As a electical engineer will the free one work?....Art

[waternhole]

As we all know dowsing is a physical and or mental phenomen. The dowsing tool is not as important as the users belief that it does work! In other words a positive mind set. In my opinion, do these LRL's work? YES!
But do the "electronics" enhance or increase the range? ABSOLUTELY NOT. The "electronics" are nothing more than a hodge podge of electrinic components, some of which are not even connected!
I worked for a man who was a highly paid consultant. I asked him one day how he got his clients to implement his suggestions. He replied that it was all in the fee that he charged. If I charged you $100 for my work you might suspect that my advice wasn't worth mutch. But if you paid $5,000 you would set up and listen!
The same analogy applies to those expensive LRLs. If you paid $20 for a set of L rods you might have doubts as to how good they worked. If you purchased a $500 LRL you would think that I paid a lot of money for this thing so it must work. And it does! Again a positive mind set is the key to sucessful dowsing. The power of positive thinking is emense. This is why you will find testimonials throughout the internet that many treasures and coins have been found using these LRL's.
The old engineering tern KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) deffinately applies in this situation. Just plain old bent clothes hangers work. It's all in the mind of the beholder along with an unexplainable primidorial sixth sense.
The author of this web site and I are just suggesting that you beware. He says that dowsing does't work. I BELIEVE!!!!

[aarthrj3811]

Let me give you a little experiment I have tried. I give someone a large flake of gold and a compass. I have them walk away from me in the direction of north. When they have walked about 46 paces I can no long pick up the flake of gold. I then have them walk away from me in a non cardinal direction and I get no reading at all from the flake of gold. I then set my LRL up which has a range of 3/4 miles.I again have them walk away from me. I can track the flake of gold for 3/4 of a mile no matter which direction they walk. Is this all in my head? If this is all in my head, am I going to locate more gold in less time by using the LRL? I don't care much how dowsing works as long as I find what I'm looking for. The only thing I know about whats inside my LRL's is that it sure drains the battery fast for something I'm told doesn't do anything....Art

[waternhole]

The LRL rod design is a good one. Anything you can do to decrease the resistance of the swivel handle will enhance the sensitivity of the L rods.
I use a pair made by a machinist who used to work for NASA. They have miniature precision ball bearings. They are really sensitive. I use them for locating enriched spots to dredge in rivers and drywash in the desert. Do I get dry holes? Sure, but who knows how deep these things work. I tipped the rods with a small piece of gold. It helped a little. I taped two small nuggets to the rods. A litle more help. I wear a 1/4 ounce nugget on a heavy 18K chain. Helps a little too. It mostly in my mind any way.
I can't get a pendulim to work for me at all even though it contains about 2 grams of desert gold. It does make circles over a box with 5 ozs of gold.
The MFD could help. I met an old prospector on the Feather River in California this year. He would dowse five spots in the river for $100 or 25% of the gold you find. He always gets the $100. He holds a 5 Khz audible signal generator while he is dowsing. He seems to think it helps. He's obviously good at it. He dredges the whole river, but he would say he would hit a good one today because he was going to dredge a dowsed hot spot. He would always come back with two to three times as much gold as he did on average.
I'm not a physicst so I cannot authoratively comment on the pros and cons of a 5 Khz generator (which is the resonant frequency of gold).
I am going to build it though. Soon as I can get to Radio Shack and get the parts. Could help. Remember, It's all in the power of positive thinking!

[waternhole]

Art
Good experiment. There might be something there that is unexplainable by electrical design. I do know that some of the LRL's have 5Khz signal generators in them. What brand is your LRL?
Glad to hear you're having success with your LRL. You can find a 1/4 oz nugget from 3/4 mile away! WOW! Tell me more. I searched 1/2 a day and only found a 1/4 oz nugget with my metal detector. I found it by dowsing the vein through my friends claim and then metal detecting it. The L rods I use only have a range of 8-10 feet.
How do you use a walkie talkie to dowse?

[aarthrj3811]

For me with just the plain rods the size of the gold determines how far my rods will react to it. For me if there is a bunch of fakes close together I will only read the largest one. I have 4 or 5 different freq for gold. They all will work.You can down load any freq you want from the internet and put it on a CD. Put the disk in a boom-box, ground the antenna and use it as a LRL. http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Multimedia_and_Graphics/Sound_Generators/Tone_and_Waveform_Generator.html
The walkie-talkies work but I have not tested them a lot. Now that I know Bill Morgan is still in business he can tell you how these work..310-548-7025 or bmorgan@sanpedro.com
I spent 25years dredging in No Calif so I know how dowsing can help you find better areas to dredge....Art

[waternhole]

Fascinating! I believe it works. Got to see you do it. I can imagine you walking along a river bank, boom box on your shoulder with a dowsing rod in the other hand!
Hey is there any chance we can tag up. I travel through Northern CA in mid June after dredging in the Feather River.
Thanks for the info on the walkie talkie LRL.
Yes your dowsing may be in your mind. Think about this. Your playing an audible frequency that you hear. This tunes your mind/body to the resonant frequency of gold thus your dowsing distance is increased and it's more sensitive. What do you think?

[aarthrj3811]

I try not to think about how it works. I know that it works different for other people. I tend to believe that the objects emit a signal. I have did experiments with an aluminum disk hanging in a sealed jar and when an objects is placed in one of the cardinal directions from the disk the disk will turn toward the object. Each different object will turn the disk a different amount of degrees. I think that these signals from the objects enter the foot and cause the body to react to it. You can stand on one of these signal lines and the rods will cross. If you raise one foot the rods will open. Just like you turned a light switch off. Is it the Ideomortor effects crossing the rods. I don't know and I don't care if it is. As long as I can find objects I will keep using the rods. LRL's work almost the same but you can search a larger area in a lot less time which amounts to more finds....Art

[Dell Winders]

Looking inside the Pro-4 Frequency Discrimination LRL


LEFT: *Built Antenna *9V battery compartment.

RIGHT: *On/Off power switch/LED. *Computer programmed Micro-Controller * 8 position selector switch w/pre-selected frequencies for Gold, Silver, Copper, Lead, Tin, Diamond (carbon) & Emerald (beryillum). *Slide switch/LED frequency shift, used in conjunction with the target/signal line, Weight Chek. * OD 3 in. X 4 in. *WT 9 oz w/battery