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Old 04-25-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Ace 250 vs M6

Using the M6 and searching 3 properties that were previously detected with an Ace 250(by me) I found a whopping 1 coin, a memorial.

Either the 250 is as good as the M6 or the M6 is as bad as the 250

Still don't quite have the pinpoint feature down to a tee. Some targets (plenty of pull tabs left to dig up) came up dead center in the plug, others to the side. The solitary coin was to the side, but it was on an angle. Still trying to get permission on someones property so I can use the 250 and M6. I want to try the pinpoint feature on the 250 (since I am familiar with it) and compare the M6 to get a better hands down experience.
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:52 PM
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Although I have never used the Ace 250 and hear it is a coin finder. I used to own a Whites Prism II and found many coins and relics with it. I had found so much with it at my Civil War camp along with my other buddies that when I moved back down to NC with my Whites M6 eight months later I was finding just as much as with my Prism, even more. My M6 goes much deeper and I was getting new digs from places where we thought were dug out. I do find that my M6 is right on the money in pinpointing 90% of the time, and I figure the other 10% is user error.
Although no spot is "dug out" it may be that you found the majority of your coins in that spot and there was little left to dig with your M6.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:15 PM
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Although I have never used the Ace 250 and hear it is a coin finder. I used to own a Whites Prism II and found many coins and relics with it. I had found so much with it at my Civil War camp along with my other buddies that when I moved back down to NC with my Whites M6 eight months later I was finding just as much as with my Prism, even more. My M6 goes much deeper and I was getting new digs from places where we thought were dug out. I do find that my M6 is right on the money in pinpointing 90% of the time, and I figure the other 10% is user error.
Although no spot is "dug out" it may be that you found the majority of your coins in that spot and there was little left to dig with your M6.
Went to another neighbors today whose property I have detected before, but never really did a full sweep. Had the Ace, M6 and a camera to take shots of the readings from both machines. What a trip that was LOL. Used the M6 to search for coins, try to pinpoint with it, marked the spot and then used the 250 (with a sniper coil for more accurate pinpointing) to compare the pinpoint spots. Some I was dead on, other almost 2'' off. Still can't figure that M6 pinpointing out *ugh*. Both machines read the same (ie quarter, dime/penny, etc). They were also both fooled by a bobby pin and a few pieces of some kind of metal that were together about 6'' down. All read as a penny, VDI reading seemed to be in the same range, but never put the tone thing-a-majig to use ;0( The M6 also had two false reading of quarters. I tried slow scan, fast scan, bi-directional scan and it came up solid quarter readings in both spots. One one a piece of huge scarp metal that I couldn't unearth, the other had nothing, and I mean nothing at all. The Ace was flashing from quarter to "junk" on the scrap metal hole, showed no readings on the other. Tried the Bullseye pinpointer to see if it would detect anything, nada. Not sure why the M6 did that. Tried sweeping the area around it, nada.

Anyway, found 3 quarters, 2 dimes and six cents. No wheaties, and no silver. First property (out of 5) from the 40's I did a full sweep and nary a single silver coin
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Thanks for the comparison. Please do some more if possible. I am new to the hobby about a year ago and purchased the ACE 250. I really like the machine and have found a ton of stuff but keep thinking I should up grade or get a different detector. I keep thinking that I might be missing all these great finds. I have no experience with any other detector so it is really nice to see someone doing a comparison. Thanks.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default the Mystery of the lost signal

All of us at one point or another have dug a good signal to find nothing in the hole. Or you dig down and the signal just vanishes. Here is a possible reason for that. When an object is in the ground it gives a sort of halo, and when you dig down, the disturbance of the ground removes this effect. Almost always after you lose the signal Just dig down again and take a full load out of the hole, bottom and sides. most of the time the object is just under the dirt.
Another thing is, when your machine tells you its a coin of any type and it turns out to be a safty pin or something else. That is because your machine reads not only the material the object is made of, but also the size of the object and it tries to give you the best choice for it. Hope this helps alittle.
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Thanks for the comparison. Please do some more if possible. I am new to the hobby about a year ago and purchased the ACE 250. I really like the machine and have found a ton of stuff but keep thinking I should up grade or get a different detector. I keep thinking that I might be missing all these great finds. I have no experience with any other detector so it is really nice to see someone doing a comparison. Thanks.
The 'ole Ace had paid for itself so I decided to upgrade. So far the Ace is proving it was a better buy than I thought as it is keeping up with the M6! White's has a $49.99 or such coupon for coils (comes when you buy a new detector) and I'm going for the 'big boy' to see if it can go deeper.
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The deepscan coil arrived and I have come to the conclusion that the M6 is a piece of garbage. Even with the deepscan coil, no discrim and sens at 90 it won't find a coin past the 6'' mark (in a test garden). Heck the 250 can do that. A huge thumbs down to the M6 and a waste of money on my part
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I own an Ace 250, but not an M6, so can't give a true side by side analysis. Got a friend from Oregon who had both as well, and his opinion was just the opposite of yours. Sold his Ace, got a 5.3 Concentric coil for the M6, turned the sensitivity down, and is finding coins much deeper than I do with the Ace.

Just thought I'd throw this one into the mix; maybe some others have opinions, too.
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The deepscan coil arrived and I have come to the conclusion that the M6 is a piece of garbage. Even with the deepscan coil, no discrim and sens at 90 it won't find a coin past the 6'' mark (in a test garden). Heck the 250 can do that. A huge thumbs down to the M6 and a waste of money on my part
sell it. let me know how much. i could use it as a loner.
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Interesting read Oz !!! Thanks !!!
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