sceptics and pro's come forth

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Hi Ohi! Yeah, I mentioned it. But after astounding odds, it never worked again...pendulums that is. I believe using metal rods in the field simply works too often to discount it as myth. I also find no physical reason for believing that "remote" dowsing works with maps or pictures. Coriolis effect spins things...but only one way, depending on which hemisphere you are in -science. Thin metal rods or wires can be affected by both Coriolis effect, electromagnetic fields and a host of various natural energy waves and rays ...if they are given the freedom to do so. Again, science. But this is old news. I just wonder if anyone has heard or has updated scientific evidence that explains why field dowsing works...most of the time. Finding anything five feet down in a undisturbed 1/4 acre lot is not a fluke. The laws of probability rule out chance on this one. And then to repeat this again and again in different locations...science is surely to blame...not little voices or green men. See, I have plenty of doubts about most of it. With metal rods in the field, I find pipes. Dead on most of the time, regardless of depth. But with steep hills I am always off...but not by much. I already mentioned the mirror image thingy that happened. I am open minded...but if this is a "gift" I'd just as soon leave it alone...if ya get my meaning. plumber

Its easy to see a scientific explanation for the metal rods working , Ive done it myself looking for water and it works. But this is finding large amounts of water or large metalic objects by magnetic fields. Finding a coin with a pendulum cant work because the coin isnt big enough , and dowsing a map makes no sense because it is just a piece of paper. I do believe there are other things at work in some cases that are not scientific but fall more into a category that I will just call "supernatural" ...like a ouigi board ( spelling ?? ). This is an area many of us know to avoid.
 
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Its easy to see a scientific explanation for the metal rods working , Ive done it myself looking for water and it works. But this is finding large amounts of water or large metalic objects by magnetic fields. Finding a coin with a pendulum cant work because the coin isnt big enough , and dowsing a map makes no sense because it is just a piece of paper. I do believe there are other things at work in some cases that are not scientific but fall more into a category that I will just call "supernatural" ...like a ouigi board ( spelling ?? ). This is an area many of us know to avoid.
Well said. I hope no bad ju ju got on me with the pendulum business. That was back in 76'. I brought it up because the odds were spectacular. I also brought it up because it stopped working and never has since. Therefore, if it can't be duplicated...must be ju ju and not science. It has always bothered me. Maps of course are pure nonsense. I am still willing to entertain the Coriolis effect in regards to pendulums...didn't say I believe it. But no one has stepped forward. A compass involves friction and mass in its relation to E.M.F. As friction is decreased, it's sensitivity increases. But, eventually the Coriolis effect would overcome the E.M.F. in strength. and that is because the mass of the needle is not large enough to remain attracted to the E.M.F. Believe it or not, it is at this threshold that almost anything can cause the needle to fluctuate and rotate...tiny and invisible as they may seem. This threshold is what a pendulum can achieve once the string stops moving and the pendulum is rotating strictly because of the earths rotational effect...Coriolis. It's what causes any amount or mass of liquid to drain in the same direction... Pull the plug, it will always rotate counter clockwise in the north, clockwise in Australia. E.M.F. bends with this effect. No matter how slight. This "bending" is what would "kick start" the pendulum's natural and inevitable rotation according to the physical laws concerning the Coriolis effect. There. Boy am I in trouble now. That's my best physics based take on how it "could" be physically possible with metallic objects only. Water assumes a reflection of energy beams or waves and may even apply in this circumstance. I don't believe it could ever work in a open environment.

So has anyone heard this before? I'm still skeptical. plumber
 
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