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Interesting points..I wonder what did happen to John Titor..Maybe he was from the future and did go back.....Buster....
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What are some of his predictions that have come to pass?
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I wouldn't put too much faith in John Titor...

But, he is clearly a very smart bloke and a great read for a time travel fiction fan such as myself.

According to him (in 2001) The 2008 US Elections will leave the US with a female president, The 2004 summer olympics was the last one, meaning Bejing Olympics this year will not go ahead. A civil war which has been simmering away under the surface in the USA since around 2005 will turn into a shooting war in 2008. Go to John Titor - Time Traveler for detailed info on this saga.

Here is a cut and paste from BBC - Homepage which includes some John Titor predictions. It's a ll good stuff, but it's only for entertainment value. I guess we'll know for sure by the end of this year whether there is any validity...

Most of what Titor has said of events between 2000 and 2036 centre on a third World War followed by two decades of ongoing recuperation. According to Titor, the period of conflict begins at the time of the American Presidential elections of 2004/5 when the seeds for a second American civil war are germinated. The nature of the conflict is described as civil unrest brought on by intrusive police-state tactics, which leads to an increasing number of Waco or Ruby Ridge-type events, peaking at approximately one per week. Eventually urban and rural areas are openly pitched against each other. Titor claimed that at the age of thirteen he had joined a shotgun militia to fight on the side of the rural army. By 2008 it is popularly realised the pre-civil war conditions that existed within America are lost for good.

By 2015 the civil war is effectively ended when Russia begins a series of nuclear strikes on most major American cities therefore eliminating the federal government. Most major urban areas worldwide are also badly affected through a tit-for-tat series of nuclear strikes, with a death count of approximately three billion people. The areas worst affected are Europe, Africa and Australia.

By 2036 the world has changed considerably. America is now made up of five states with Nebraska as the capital and consists of decentralised, tightly-knit rural communities. There is a greater emphasis on religion, personal interaction (as opposed to mass media), as well as self-sufficiency with people expected to work for part of the day in the fields to produce food. Water is still contaminated with radioactivity and needs to be filtered. In spite of the war and the efforts to construct this new society from the remains of the old, technology does not seem to be too badly affected. Titor mentioned a system of rapid rail travel between cities, space travel, genetic engineering and of course time travel.

Besides the American civil conflict and a third World War Titor made a number of other significant predictions:
  • America will wage war on Iraq, claiming Iraq has nuclear weapons. Titor made this statement years before a war with Iraq was considered. He also claimed no weapons of mass destruction would be found.
  • War will erupt between Israel and its Arab neighbours, and weapons of mass destruction will be used.
  • Korea, Taiwan and Japan will be annexed by China as the West becomes unstable.
  • In the early 2000's CERN will lay the foundations for time travel. In the autumn of 2001 after Titor had left, CERN released a statement indicating the creation of mini black holes was possible.
  • Mad cow disease will be a health issue in America but it will be under-played.
  • Genetically modified food will be used to produce hybrid seeds that will have detrimental effects on the population's health.
  • Titor made a number of statements about constitutional and civil rights in America. He also said the American government will assume its citizens will prefer security over certain personal freedoms.
  • The future will judge the present harshly.

Since the Many Worlds Theory is, according to Titor, accurate, this has implications for Titor's claim to be a time-traveller and how his predictions for our future can be evaluated. If Titor is to be believed we need to accept he is visiting from another closely-related time line with its subtle differences from our own. Consequently we can expect some of his predictions for the future to be false for us, but since according to Titor there is only a two per cent discrepancy between the two timelines, there is a good possibility some of his predictions will be fulfilled. Therefore, as the time approaches for each of his predictions to occur, eventually the probability of Titor’s claim that he is a time traveller will increase either towards being true or towards being false, depending on whether the prediction is fulfilled.

The story of John Titor has been circulating on the Internet for almost five years, with some people attempting to provide proof this is simply a prolonged hoax, while others put forward arguments and evidence to support Titor's claim to be a time-traveller from the year 2036. The arguments against Titor are, however, quite damning. For instance, it has been demonstrated that the picture showing the laser light being bent was faked, and Titor's explanation of using mini black holes to time travel is scientifically impossible. Also, if Titor had intervened as he said to prevent the disasters caused by the Millennium Bug, then by his own explanation of the Many Worlds Theory of quantum mechanics, our world line would have diverged radically from his own4. This would mean his predictions would be all but irrelevant for our world line5. More fundamentally, it is a given of time travel theory6 that a time machine cannot travel beyond the date it was built. Therefore, if Titor began time-travelling in 2036 he could not have travelled any further back than 2034, since according to him the time machine was first constructed on this date.

For those who want to discover the truth for themselves there are a number of websites with archives of Titor's messageboard postings. Perhaps one of the best of these archives is the Abovetopsecret website. If you scratch around the Internet you will come across more and more bits of information about John Titor and you will quickly be able to decide for yourself whether there is any substance to his claims to be a time-traveller. In the final analysis, however, perhaps the most fascinating aspect of the story of John Titor is the fact that this phenomenon, which could so easily have been ignored, has engaged so many people for so long. The story is recounted and discussed on many websites and people have expended a lot of time and energy in support for or against Titor's claims. It is also remarkable for a story of this nature to span so many media forms, ranging from a book to a ballet!"
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