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Old 06-03-2005, 09:39 PM
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Default Not One Cent.

Found this baby tonight - thought it was another Large Cent until I got some crud off her. Looks to be in not that bad of shape - I believe the year is 1841.
Can anybody give me a little history on these - this is another first for me. And are these just as collectable as coins?
I also found a 1836 large cent last night about 10 feet from where I got this tonight.;
Thanks alot
Davy
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:03 AM
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nice find. sounds like a great spot.
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:10 AM
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Hi Davy


What you have there is a hard times token, there are alot of different types of these, I do not personally collect them, but they are quite collectable, and are valued according to rarity of the design.

I will have to do a little research to try and value yours, i will be working tommorrow morning ,i will see what I can find out in the afternoon.

Cool Timmy found it !!! Here is a little reading on hard times tokens ,, since timmy already gave you the other info ,,http://www.worksandwords.com/moneym/hardtime.htm

I agree with Timmy do not clean the coin , have it cleaned by a conservator ,I believe that NGC offers that type of service .

It is a very sweet find , and the banker says Yesssss

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Old 06-04-2005, 05:55 AM
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Cool found your token

Your token is listed in the Standard Catalog of United States Tokens 1700-1900 by Russell Rulau. It is indeed a hard times token. it is on page 96 about half way down. HT# 59 in copper. it is called Bushnell fantasy type. Why it dont say. the date is 1841. Nows the part where you sit down. It has a rarity rating of 7 on a scale from 1(common) to 10(unique) third edition 1999 gives a value of $2000 in EF which would be close to yours

DO NOT CLEAN this coin by your self.


Hope this helps

TimmyNY


PS sweet find

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Old 06-04-2005, 10:16 AM
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Default Excellent finds!

So glad you're having such good luck, Timmy!
The Hard Times token is interesting, as it uses a slogan that was at least a generation old... I believe that "Millions for Defence, and not one cent for Tribute!" comes from Jefferson's time.
IIRC, Pirates in what is now Lybia were holding Americans hostage, and demanding a ransom.
Instead of a shipload of loot, Jefferson sent them the Marines instead!
It's a shame that we don't have a govenment today that will just let the Marines do what they need to without interference.
Keep up the parade of cool finds!

HH! -Tom
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:06 PM
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Thanks for all the info guys but I got to come clean - I already gave it a peroxide bath before I even took a picture of it, I thought it was just another Large Cent - it was so caked there was no way of knowing any different.

I did see one on Ebay that was the same year and looked to be in a little better shape than mine and the price was only $4.37 with 3 days left. I guess the right buyer hasn't seen it.

Anyway I still think its a pretty cool find.
Happy hunting to ya'll
Davy
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Old 06-04-2005, 07:37 PM
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Cool closer look

there is another token that is very close to yours that is common. They are very close and the pictures are only black and white and small. It may still be one of the better ones. I shouldnt be looking stuff up at 6AM. still a very nice find Yellow. one that I havnt found yet

TimmyNY
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:06 AM
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Sounds like a very neat find! Good luck on that value!

Pat
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Old 06-05-2005, 08:36 AM
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I had never heard of those. It looks like there are several different types on Ebay. I hope yours is worth a lot of money.
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Old 06-05-2005, 08:58 AM
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That is beautiful Davy. I remember having one close to yours, not sure if they were alike but close.


Nice find buddy, I love seeing the old stuff
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