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Old 10-11-2006, 08:31 PM
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Default Old Lock ?/ Medallion

hi folks i found the old lock and the 2 cent piece last week at an old church yard. the 2 c says (1901 magyar kiralyi valtopenz ) then we hit an old park this weekend and got the copper medal . it says good conduct ,fidelity,efficiency,honor. we also dug 4 silver dimes 1929,41,49,and 1952 a cheap ring and 11 wheaties. not much clad though. the hardest part about this is putting on good pics. i may hit a yard tomorrow that looks real promising ( a coworker found an 1896 quarter behind his mantle and a few in. heads) he said the yard is all mine goodluck all!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-11-2006, 08:39 PM
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By golly you have been doing good.
Your new yard sounds like someplace for some nice finds. Good luck.
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Old 10-11-2006, 08:48 PM
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great pics-n-great finds!

good luck in the yard-give it he11!
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:08 PM
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thanks guys, boobie do you know the origin of the 2 cent piece?
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:15 PM
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The 2-cent piece came into being in 1864 partially to offset the severe shortage of 1-cent coins, and was a part of the Act of April 22, 1864, that created the small bronze cent in that year. From 1856 to 1864, the cent was a copper-nickel alloy slightly thicker than the present-day cent.
The 2-cent coin, designed by noted Mint Engraver James B. Longacre (who also designed the Indian head cent), featured a shield with a ribbon and the motto above on the obverse ("heads" side), and a wreath on the back with the numeral "2" in the middle and "cents" beneath the 2.
From the start, this coin saw little use, and its initial mintage of 19 million during the first year slowed in each successive year until 1872, when the last circulation strikes were made. In 1873, only a small number of collector specimens were struck — estimated at 1,100 coins.
In 1864 there were two varieties. The first was the "small motto," which is the scarcer of the two motto varieties; in average used condition, it catalogues for $65. In mint condition its value exceeds $1,000. The more common "large motto" variety is valued at $12 in used condition and more than $100 in mint condition. In each year the mintages dropped: 1865, 13 million; 1866, 3.17 million; 1867, 2.9 million; 1870, 861,000; 1871, 721,000; and 1872, only 65,000.
In each year there are one or more recognized die varieties such as doubled dies, recut dates, doubled mottoes and various styled numerals in the date. Most are worth more than the more common types listed in the standard catalogues. The specialty books on the subject by Flynn (1994) and Kliman (1977) describe these varieties.
Complete mint-condition sets are seen for sale from time to time and were a popular investment item years ago. Today's value for a mint-condition set of the 12 coins — 10 different dates and two varieties — would run about $5,000 to $7,500. A circulated set of all 12 coins in lesser grades would run about $1,500 to $2,000.
For a conversation piece, a 2-cent coin would certainly get people's attention. They did circulate well into the late 1800s and were totally gone from use by the early 1900s.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:34 PM
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Great job ROOT66!!Congrats on your 2-cent piece. Is that your first 2-cent?
The only coins I have not found is Trade Dollar and 20-cent piece!!!I found every other coin in my life detecting!!!

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Old 10-12-2006, 06:05 AM
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Nice finds, espically the old lock and the 2 cent !! Good luck on your next outing.
And thanks boobie for the info on the 2 cent coin, interesting stuff.
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If That 2 Cent Piece Is Dated 1901 It Can't Be A U.s. Issue They Were Only Minted 1864-1873 Boobie You'd Best Check To Find Out What Magyar Kiralyi Valtopenz Means It's Certainly Not English
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UPON FURTHER RESEARCH ON THE COIN IT IS A (2 FILLER FROM HUNGARY) WORTH 25 CENTS IN FINE CONDITION
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:14 PM
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thanks, skinny i was 100 % sure that it was not english. I AM TRYING TO GET PERMISSION TO HUNT THE OLD CHURCH YARD WICH IS NOT IN USE ANYMORE, I ONLY HUNTED THE EDGE AND FOUND THE LOCK AND COIN BECAUSE A FRIEND OF MINES PROPERTY JOINS IT I CAN ONLY WAIT AND DREAM.
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